Special edition podcast: The world after coronavirus: Where's the upside?

In June of 2020, the world is facing an unprecedented two-fold crisis we didn't see coming just months ago. Global health experts are racing to eradicate the largest pandemic in more than a century, as governments and economists try to stabilize markets and get industries back to work again.

In a special edition of the GZERO World podcast, in partnership with Citi Private Bank, we're looking at how COVID-19 has exacerbated existing economic and geopolitical challenges and created some new ones along the way. But it also presents opportunities for real growth and change.


From the relationship between the two largest economies—the U.S. and China—to confronting societal issues like inequality, sustainability, and global cooperation, this dark moment could bring a brighter future if political and financial leaders make the right decisions.

Moderated by Meredith Sumpter, Eurasia Group's Head of Research Strategy and Operations, this program pairs leading political scientist Ian Bremmer with Citi Private Bank's Chief Investment Officer David Bailin for a frank and wide-ranging conversation about the future of global markets, the developing world, and life as we've known it.

David Bailin

Chief Investment Officer, Citi Private Bank

Ian Bremmer

President, Eurasia Group and GZERO Media

Meredith Sumpter

Head of Research Strategy and Operations, Eurasia Group


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Over the past few years, we've seen three major emerging powers take bold action to right what they say are historical wrongs.

First came Crimea. When the Kremlin decided in 2014 that Western powers were working against Russian interests in Ukraine, President Vladimir Putin ordered Russian troops to seize the Crimean Peninsula, which was then part of Ukraine. Moscow claimed that Crimea and its ethnic Russian majority had been part of the Russian Empire for centuries until a shameful deal in 1954 made Crimea part of the Ukrainian Soviet Republic. Americans and Europeans imposed sanctions on Russia. But Ukraine is not part of NATO or the EU, and no further action was taken.

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"Neither America first, which is ultimately America alone, nor America the world's policeman," Sen. Chris Coons told Ian Bremmer in describing VP Joe Biden's approach to foreign policy should he win the presidential election in November. In the latest episode of GZERO World with Ian Bremmer, Sen. Coons provides details of how U.S. relationships with foreign governments and multilateral alliances could change in a Biden presidency. He also defended President Obama's track record, saying "I think it is a mischaracterization of the Obama-Biden foreign policy for President Trump to say that we were picking up the tab and fighting the world's wars and that we were disrespected." Coons stated that Biden would work to restore U.S. involvement in alliances like NATO, and shore up global support to pressure China on labor and environmental standards. The exchange is part of a broad conversation with the Senator about COVID response and economic relief, Russian interference in elections, and the 2020 presidential race. The episode begins airing nationally in the U.S. on Friday, July 10. Check local listings.

Jon Lieber, managing director for the United States at Eurasia Group, shares his insights on US politics:

How is coronavirus jeopardizing the legitimacy of a 2020 presidential election?

Well, what coronavirus is doing is a lot of states are worrying about people who aren't going to want to come to the polling places in the fall, and they're worried about a shortage of polling workers who are going to want to come out and volunteer to get sick by interacting with a bunch people in person. So, what they're doing is they're looking at making a shift to vote-by-mail. Most states allow some form of absentee balloting today. Five states just automatically mail you a ballot and they don't do any in-person voting. But the challenge here is that a lot of states are unprepared for the sharp increase that's expected. In the last election, 25% of ballots were cast by mail. You may see 50, 60 or even more percent of ballots cast by mail this time, which could overwhelm election administration, which happens at the state level.

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The United States and the European Union have comparable population sizes, but their COVID-19 death toll trajectories have diverged. As of July 8, the average number of new deaths every three days in the EU had fallen 97 percent since peaking at the beginning of April. The US number, however, has fallen only 67 percent over the same period. That means that although both regions' death tolls peaked with only two weeks difference, the EU has flattened its COVID-19 fatality curve faster than America. Some experts attribute the difference to EU countries' more robust public health systems and better compliance with mask-wearing and other social distancing measures.