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The United States will no longer play global policeman, and no one else wants the job. This is not a G-7 or a G-20 world. Welcome to the GZERO, a world made volatile by an intensifying international battle for power and influence. Every week on this podcast, Ian Bremmer will interview the world leaders and the thought leaders shaping our GZERO World.

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Podcast: US choices, global consequences: Hina Khar on India, Pakistan, Afghanistan & broken democracy

Listen: As Russian forces invaded Ukraine, Pakistan's PM Imran Khan, one of Vladimir Putin’s few friends, visited Moscow. But his trip did not go down well in the US. With Washington ready to downgrade its relationship with Islamabad, Khan is looking to form new friendships to protect Pakistan's strategic interests. In this episode of the GZERO World Podcast, Ian Bremmer interviews Pakistan’s former Foreign Minister Hina Rabbani Khar about Pakistan’s future, humanitarian crisis in Afghanistan, and Modi;s India. Who bears responsibility for the Afghan humanitarian crisis? What should Pakistan's role in global politics be? Is India an illiberal state?

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Listen: As Russian forces invaded Ukraine, Pakistan's PM Imran Khan, one of Vladimir Putin’s few friends, visited Moscow. But his trip did not go down well in the US. With Washington ready to downgrade its relationship with Islamabad, Khan is looking to form new friendships to protect Pakistan's strategic interests. In this episode of the GZERO World Podcast, Ian Bremmer talks to Pakistan’s former Foreign Minister Hina Rabbani Khar about Pakistan’s future, Afghanistan, and India. Who bears responsibility for the Afghan humanitarian crisis? Military interventions, Khar says, cast a “deep shadow on the entire democratic value system.” She argues that the best way to help end Afghanistan’s humanitarian crisis is to talk to the Taliban. Pakistan's former top diplomat also says it's time for her country to take a step back from the global stage to focus on its mounting domestic challenges and concentrate on issues like reducing Pakistan's huge dependence on foreign aid and moves in Kashmir. Khar asserts that India is also endangering regional politics as a member of the Quad.

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