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The World’s Nuclear Threats and What the IAEA Is Doing About Them | Rafael Grossi | GZERO World

The world’s nuclear threats and what the IAEA is doing about them

Note: This interview appeared as part of an episode of GZERO World with Ian Bremmer, "Rogue states gone nuclear and the watchdog working to avert disaster" on January 16, 2023.

International Atomic Energy Agency chief Rafael Grossi witnessed first-hand how close we came to another Chernobyl disaster thanks to fighting near the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant in southern Ukraine. On GZERO World, Ian Bremmer asks Grossi about the world's nuclear threats and what the IAEA is doing about them. Grossi views himself as a mediator — if leaders are willing to listen to him.

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Ian Explains: How Do We Avert Nuclear Disaster in 2023? | GZERO World

How do we avert nuclear disaster in 2023?

Rafael Grossi has a very tough job as head of the UN's nuclear watchdog. But he's an optimist.

Still, the stakes are very high.

We've got North Korea building even more nukes. Russia turned into a rogue state that controls Europe's largest power plant in Ukraine, which is still at risk of an accident. And Iran getting closer to getting the bomb.

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Iran getting the bomb? Not as close as you might think

The 2015 Iran nuclear deal is pretty much dead in the water right now. And perhaps the train has already left the station because Tehran is too close to enriching enough uranium to get the bomb.

So, is it too late?

“Having the nuclear material does not mean [that] automatically that you have a nuclear weapon,” International Atomic Energy Agency chief Rafael Grossi tells Ian Bremmer on GZERO World. Still, Grossi would like more cooperation from the Iranians.

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